Terran

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Im thinking of getting a guitar, im unsure at the moment if i want a Bass or Electric. What would be ok for a beginner? I dont know if my friends Electric is still here, as I think he sold it. (he left it here when he moved to Edmonton) Drums are out of the question, from step 1. I dotn have the room, Also my bro might be getting a set. and my friends getting a Bass. So Electric Comes to mind quickest. lol.
But with my short patients Id perfer easyer one to learn.
Also if i could find a used one, Be even better. I was looking at HaveBlue's Electric, But I dislike the Color/Look and also he says it sounds bad as he put 8's instead of 9's, 10's (i rly dont know what that means, I Think string thickness?)

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I have a peavy Raptor with a small Rage 128 amp for sale, it's in good shape, red gloss finished with white pick guard. It's a great beginners guitar, sounds really nice and holds a tune great. It's also very comfortable and easy to learn on. http://www.8thstreet.com/images/peavey-raptorpexprd.jpg That's almost exactly what it looks like but with a slightly different head. PM me if you're interested and we can talk.

Terran

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Well I found the Electric We had here, altho still interested in this,

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learn with 10's (thats the string gauge or thickness) on it or better yet, learn on an acoustic. if you can play an acoustic, then your fingers will be stronger and switching to an electric will be easier. also, with an acoustic, you don't have to buy an amp for it. if you learn on a 6 string first, then the switch to bass guitar (4 strings typically) won't be hard. if you have any other questions, don't be shy to PM me. i've been playing for 20 years and used to teach back in the 90's.

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CommonWealth

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I learned on a Epiphone LP 135 ( like a studio with a bolt on neck) , I used 9's,i don't see an issue with string gauge just don't start with a really low gauge like 8's.As novascroller said acoustic is a better learning tool as most cheap acoustics and acoustics in general have a harder action ( how hard or the space in between the string and fret board) thus by practicing on this and getting speed and timing and such down, when you go to electric the action is much lower and this is easier for you, The only thing you'd have to get used to past that is the fret spacing (how big the frets are),Usually they are much larger on an acoustic and the scale is smaller by a small bit. I would suggest a bass for the same reason, this gets your general tone knowledge and your ear tuned to what is where and so on, And as the acoustic the action is a little different and the frets are much bigger as with the scale as it’s a bass after all. I picked up a fender p-bass shortly after that Epiphone LP and learned on both of them. Bass is great for beginners as there isn’t tons of effect pedals out there and most amps are solid state and very affordable in comparison to guitar amps ,or at least I found, meaning that some great bass amps that would be comparable in the same instance as guitar amps the bass amp seems to be cheaper. I guess what I mean to say is that with bass there isn’t allot of fooling around for tone so much as guitar, which keeps your mind on playing rather then searching for a phaser pedal or some odd effect to sound like your favorite guitarist.Thats not to say you can't do that with bass, you can but you don't have to. Only down fall with bass is the cost of strings, which can run you from 15.00$ (good deal!) to 25.00$,as with guitar you can usually pick up a set of Ernie ball slinky's for under 10.00$ or those dreaded GHS strings .

Guitar though has allot more players and thus you'll find used stuff easily, so if you don't want to shell out 600 - 1,000$ for a small tube amp you'll likely find one used for around 300$ in the city.

Anyway my main point is don't get caught up in all that effects garbage, it will cost you money in the end and you'll probably just end up selling them. A good resolution to this is save up your pennies and by a line 6 pod ( I bought 2,one bass pod Xt pro and the guitar pod xt pro both rack mountable),or Behringer has a cheap by very effective multieffects copy of the pod called "v-amp”, which is cool as both of these can double as headphone amps so you don't wake up the neighbors and have a host of amp models so that you can get that tone that every guitarist searches for and effects and a tuner and the list goes on. A good investment if you’re a serious player I think.



I've played for about 10 years now, I own 2 Gibson les pauls , 1 Florentine Gibson les paul , 1 Gibson SG III (lp custom labeled), 1 Gibson Explorer pro , 1 Epiphone Sheraton Elitist , 1 Epiphone Joe pass sig , 1 Jackson san dimas off set flying v custom , 1 Jackson Superstrat (some weirdo 80's custom) , 1 BC Rich St-III super strat , 1 Fender Thin line Telecaster , 1 Warmoth custom Fender Strat , 1 USA Fender Strat , 1 Mex Fender strat,1 Gibson jumbo,1 Epiphone john Lennon sig acoustic (ej-160e)1 Spector NS bass 4 string , 1 Fender P-bass active deluxe and my newly acquired Fender Deluxe 24 fret bass.

I've owned roughly 50 - 60 guitars in the past and traded along the way, and probably twice as many effects units and pedals. I share your pain on the drums , I had to return my Gretsch 6 piece Catalina maple set and picked up that fender bass ( town houses suck )


If you end up buying a new guitar give me a pm and I’ll help you out, hell I’ll even come to the music store with you ( I don't get to go enough and that would be an excuse to go).If not Mexican strats are great for the money and used ones in good shape are even better, I swear by Epiphone's quality I know many people can't afford Gibson’s and these are the next best thing and their hollow bodies rock,And i don't view these a copies as Epiphone has been owned by Gibson since the late 1950's and believe it or not Les paul was working at one of the epiphone factories when he made his first guitar so i look at them being essentialy gibson with their own history in archtop hollow bodies,I can't say the same for Squire ( Fender's side company to make cheap (key word) versions of their widely marketed instruments,The only good squires were produced in japan and usa for a short time after the retaking from CBS in the 80's). As I like the heavy metal styled guitars I try to stay away from them as I know from owning a couple of flying v's that while they look cool they are not functional sit down and play guitars unless you want to uncomfortably cradle them in your legs, but to each his own and if that’s the case go get an explorer ,its all the metal attitude and you can play it sitting down ( or a BC rich warlock, stuff like that) , and its not how it looks its how its sounds,This is especialy true if your on a budget. Thankfully most stuff now has a nice flamed maple top on them and cheap prices and pick something you want, don’t get a crazy sharp "poke your self in the eye" BC rich Beast cause your buddies like criptopsy or venom (dethmetal ) and don't go buy a blues and jazz themed hollow body because your buddies are into that, buy what you want. Bass wise Ibanez and Fender have some really great 4 string stuff with active pick ups well under 1,000$ that are just as good as the ones over, and as it burns me to say it peavey has a really cool line of basses around 500.00$ called Cirus that are bubginia wood with a set neck and active pick ups which are usually features found on more upscale basses.


Sorry for the long read, do some research cause all the sales persons here want to only sell you Godin guitars and Traynor amps ( thumbs down!)

Terran

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Got a free AMP and Squiar Electric by Fender

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AHHHHH !,Well you can learn on the squire and i'm happy you did'nt have to pay for it as well.As per amps go when your just feeling stuff out a 15watt practice amp is great,hell from i guess alot of recording artists will use a small amp like that to record with.

If you have to buy strings Ernie Ball slinkys are great,good price and decent strings for strat style guitars,Don't use the tremolo (whammy bar) too much on the squire,They don't have a locking nut so it will throw it out of tune after a couple of bends ( up or down does'nt matter),What i do with strats with no locking nut is just take the bar off and set it aside and treat it like a hard tail (no trem).Tabs are your friend,go on the internet and try to find a site that lets you learn tabs,and find a decent chord site as well.

Have fun learning !

Terran

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thz man, Guitar was my friends, left it here for 4yrs, hidden away in a closet. Hes moved t oAlberta for the military. So he said I can use it, and well basically have it. lol

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that was my first guitar. i still have it. a 1983 squire strat.

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